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01/26/17 09:53 AM

Hi Gary,
Well I see that Hank Aaron has hit 5 home runs and knocked in 13 rbi's over his last ten games. That is some really good production for just 9 hits even though 5 of them have been diggers.
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01/26/17 01:48 PM

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There's still time for the Reds, especially when they get Frank and Pete back, don't you think Gary?

NW - I think anyone except Chicago, Houston, and the Mets have a chance. 7 games is not that bad with just under 2 months to go and Cincy should be one of the stronger teams in the league - they really need Pete to set the table though.

  

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Hi Gary,
Well I see that Hank Aaron has hit 5 home runs and knocked in 13 rbi's over his last ten games. That is some really good production for just 9 hits even though 5 of them have been diggers.
J.Q.
J.Q. - and Hammerin' Hank is a good reason that the Braves are clinging to first so tenaciously. They really have a good offense. The real question is the Braves' pitching.

  

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The New York press is really laying it on Yogi.

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American League

Friday, August 7th, 1964

 

Tiger Stadium, Detroit – The A’s continue to play the contenders tough. Though they fell behind the Tigers 2-0 in the first after Bill Bruton and hot Al Kaline homered, Bert Campaneris tripled and scored in the second while Bill Bryan homered in the 3rd and the teams were tied. Diego Segui and Dave Wickersham then dueled until the bottom of the 8th. Here, Kaline tripled and Norm Cash snuck a ball through the infield for a 3-2 lead.  Wickersham made that stand up without help for a 3-2 Tiger win; Wickersham’s 15th win.

 

Municipal Stadium, Cleveland – Luis Tiant was rocked by Harmon Killebrew, Don Mincher, and Zoilo Versalles as the Twin took an early 4-0 lead over the Indians. But the impressive rookie was not rattled and settled down.  He started throwing strikes while his teammates quietly began a comeback. Joe Azcue hit his first homerun of the season off of Dick Stigman to make it 4-1. Then in the 7th, Azcue did it again but this time it was a 2-run shot to make it 4-3. Then in the 8th, despite accumulating 8 strikeouts, Stigman served up a 2-run shot to Max Alvis and Tiant suddenly had a lead.  He finished up for the win to run his record to a perfect 5-0 in 5 starts. But this was a double header. And the Indians wasted no time in getting a lead against Gerry Arrigo when Bob Chance homered in the first and Vic Davalillo hit a 2-run bomb in the second. The other event of note was the return of Max Alvis from his bout with meningitis. After homering in the 1st game, Alvis turned on a Johnny Klippstein offering for a 3-run shot to put the game out of reach at 8-2. Despite Killebrew hitting his 41st homer in the 9th, the Indians got a sweep with an 8-3 score. Lee Stange got the win with 3 strong innings of relief from Sonny Siebert.

 

Comiskey Park, Chicago – Chicago bounced back from their tough loss to Detroit yesterday with a nice 4-2 win over Boston.  Tony Conigliaro and Felix Mantilla had hit back-to-back homers in the second off of Gary Peters for a short-lived lead. But Chicago came right back with a Floyd Robinson homerun to tie it. They then took a 4-2 lead in the 5th on RBI hits by Moose Skowron and Tommy McGraw. By then, Peters had settled in and finished out for the 4-2 win.

 

Yankee Stadium, New York – The Yankees now find themselves 10 ½ games back and there is already talk of firing Yogi Berra and having Ralph Houk come back to take over for the rest of the season. Today, Milt Pappas held the Bombers to just 5 hits though they managed to score 3 runs. That was not nearly enough for the combustible pitching staff as first Ralph Terry, then Pete Mikkelsen, and Rollie Sheldon were all torched to the tune of 8 runs. Luis Aparicio had 3 hits and scored 3 times (while driving in a pair) to set up Norm Siebern.  Siebern had his best game of the season, going 4 for 4 with a double, a homerun and 3 RBI’s. Pappas won his 17th to drop the Yankees into 6th place as they are lapped by Cleveland.

 

Chavez Ravine, Los Angeles – The Angels had two big innings. They scored 5 in the 5th to take the lead over Washington and then added an 8-run 7th inning for a crushing 13-4 win. Ken McBride got the win though he did not pitch well as Don Lee finished the last 3 1/3 innings.  Jim Fregosi had a homerun, Joe Adcock had 3 hits, and catcher Bob Rodgers added 3 RBI’s as most of the Angels enjoyed a good game.

 

BALTIMORE AT NEW YORK (A)

Orioles......... 1 0 0  1 1 0  2 3 0  -  8 13  0

Yankees......... 2 0 0  1 0 0  0 0 0  -  3  5  0

Win:Pappas(17-6) Loss:Terry(5-7)

Homeruns- N.Siebern(10th), B.Powell(33rd), R.Maris(13th), J.Pepitone(19th)

 

BOSTON AT CHICAGO (A)

Red Sox......... 0 2 0  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  2  6  0

White Sox....... 0 2 0  0 2 0  0 0    -  4 12  2

Win:Peters(13-9) Loss:Lamabe(4-11)

Homeruns- T.Conigliaro(20th), F.Mantilla(20th), F.Robinson(7th)

 

KANSAS CITY AT DETROIT

A's............. 0 1 1  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  2  7  0

Tigers.......... 2 0 0  0 0 0  0 1    -  3  8  0

Win:Wickersham(15-6) Loss:Segui(4-13)

Homeruns- B.Bryan(23rd), B.Bruton(6th), A.Kaline(15th)

 

MINNESOTA AT CLEVELAND

Twins........... 0 2 1  1 0 0  0 0 0  -  4  4  1

Indians......... 0 0 0  0 1 0  2 2    -  5  7  1

Win:Tiant(5-0) Loss:Stigman(6-8)

Homeruns- Z.Versalles(13th), H.Killebrew(40th), D.Mincher(14th), M.Alvis(9th), J.Azcue-2(2nd)

 

MINNESOTA AT CLEVELAND

Twins........... 0 0 1  1 0 0  0 0 1  -  3 13  1

Indians......... 1 2 0  2 0 0  3 0    -  8 11  0

Win:Stange(8-2) Loss:Arrigo(4-4) Save:Siebert(1st)

Homeruns- H.Killebrew(41st), B.Chance(7th), M.Alvis(10th), V.Davalillo(7th)

 

WASHINGTON AT LOS ANGELES (A)

Senators........ 1 0 0  0 0 3  0 0 0  -  4  7  1

Angels.......... 0 0 0  0 5 0  8 0    - 13 16  2

Win:McBride(7-6) Loss:Osteen(7-13) Save:Lee(1st)

Homeruns- J.Fregosi(14th)

 

 

American League Standings

Team           W   L  Pct.    GB  L10  Stk

Detroit       69  43  0.616    -  6-4  2W

Baltimore     60  49  0.550   7.5 7-3  1W

Chicago       59  49  0.546   8.0 6-4  1W

Minnesota     59  51  0.536   9.0 5-5  2L

Cleveland     58  52  0.527  10.0 4-6  2W

New York      55  50  0.524  10.5 4-6  2L

Los Angeles   58  55  0.513  11.5 5-5  2W

Kansas City   48  61  0.440  19.5 4-6  1L

Boston        44  66  0.400  24.0 3-7  3L

Washington    40  74  0.351  30.0 4-6  1L

 

INJURY REPORT

Sam Bowens, Baltimore – returns August 13th. (Earl Robinson called up)

 

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Cubs stun Pirates as Phillies move into second place.

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National League

Friday, August 7th, 1964

 

Forbes Field, Pittsburgh – With the Cubs coming to town, the Pirates hoped to extend their winning streak.  But they failed to reckon with the fact that right now the Cubs are one of the hottest teams in the NL as they continue to play the spoiler while turning around their season. It was Dick Ellsworth holding the Pirates to 3 runs so that the Cubs could catch up and go into extra innings. Here, Andre Rodgers homered off of John Gelnar and two batters later so did Dick Bertell. Bobby Shantz held on and the Cubs had stopped Pittsburgh’s winning streak at 7. But there was a double header yet to play. And here, ancient Lew Burdette pitched like a kid in holding the Pirates to just 1 run. Frank Bork got a spot start for Pittsburgh and did not pitch badly but left trailing 3-1. Then the Pirates bullpen came on to throw gasoline on the fire as the Cubs scored 5 in the 6th when Lew Burdette homered and went on to an easy 8-1 win and a double header sweep.

 

Busch Stadium, St. Louis – With Cardinal pitching on the down swing, manager Johnny Keane gave Gordon Richardson his first start since being called up.  The lefty did himself proud as he went 8 strong innings and left with an 8-1 lead.  He faded in the 9th and the bullpen did not help but Richardson still got a win in the 8-4 victory. Ken Boyer ripped his 26th homerun of the year in the win while Tim McCarver had 3 hits and 3 RBI’s.

 

Crosley Field, Cincinnati – Both the Reds and Giants have had a rash of injuries and it showed as neither team could score in the first 8 innings.  Bob Purkey made that 9 scoreless innings while holding the Giants to just 5 hits. Gaylord Perry tried to do the same and got two quick outs in the bottom of the 9th before Gordy Coleman singled. Leo Cardenas hit a bouncer into the hole that Jose Pagan could not flag down.  That was followed by a wild pitch to put the winning run at third.  Mel Queen came through with a single and the Reds had a 1-0 win.

 

Connie Mack Stadium, Philadelphia – After sweeping Houston as home, the Phillies are taking aim at first place with the Mets in town.  They leapfrogged Pittsburgh today to move into second as Chris Short went the distance to pick up his 14th win. But the big surprise was for Frank Thomas. Thomas got on the Mets bus for the trip to Philly and when he got off, he found that he had been traded to Philadelphia!  So he started for Philly and played first base.  Thomas did not do much in the game as most of the damage was done by Johnny Callison who had 3 hits including a homerun and 3 RBI’s. The Phillies went on to a 9-4 win and second place.  Philadelphia has had trouble filling the first base spot and hope that the addition of Thomas is the last piece of the puzzle for a run at the pennant.

 

County Stadium, Milwaukee – The Dodgers came into Milwaukee hoping to stem their losing streak and when Tommy Davis hit his second homerun of the game in the 5th, they had a 6-4 lead over the Braves. All they needed was to hold that lead but when Phil Ortega gave up a run and had 2 men on board, Ron Perranoski came out to try to hold that lead. Perranoski has not been pitching well and Walt Alston thought maybe coming in during the 6th inning would help him.  This was not to be as pinch hitter Gene Oliver singled and Lee Maye greeted him with a 2-run homerun and the Braves were leading.  Perranoski was burnt for another run and the Braves rolled to a 10-6 win. Dave Eilers got the win in relief of a struggling Tony Cloninger. Rookie Rico Carty had a big day with 4 hits, 6 RBI’s, and a grand slam.

 

CHICAGO AT PITTSBURGH

Cubs............ 0 2 0  0 0 0  0 1 0  2 -  5 15  0

Pirates......... 0 0 0  0 2 0  1 0 0  0 -  3  8  0

Win:Shantz(4-2) Loss:Gelnar(0-1)

Homeruns- A.Rodgers(9th), D.Bertell(4th), B.Bailey(12th)

 

CHICAGO AT PITTSBURGH

Cubs............ 0 0 0  0 0 5  1 0 2  -  8 13  0

Pirates......... 0 0 0  0 0 1  0 0 0  -  1  8  2

Win:Burdette(4-11) Loss:Bork(0-2)

Homeruns- L.Burdette(3rd)

 

HOUSTON AT ST. LOUIS

Colt 45's....... 0 0 0  1 0 0  0 0 3  -  4  9  0

Cardinals....... 3 0 0  1 0 3  0 1    -  8 11  0

Win:Richardson(1-0) Loss:Farrell(9-6) Save:Schultz(2nd)

Homeruns- K.Boyer(26th)

 

LOS ANGELES AT MILWAUKEE

Dodgers......... 0 1 0  1 4 0  0 0 1  -  7 13  3

Braves.......... 0 0 0  4 0 5  0 1    - 10  9  0

Win:Eilers(2-0) Loss:Ortega(4-11) Save:Olivo(2nd)

Homeruns- T.Davis-2(13th), L.Maye(10th), R.Carty(17th)

 

NEW YORK AT PHILADELPHIA

Mets............ 0 0 3  0 0 0  0 1 0  -  4 10  0

Phillies........ 0 0 4  0 2 0  2 1    -  9 12  1

Win:Short(14-7) Loss:Jackson(6-15)

Homeruns- J.Christopher(12th), J.Callison(19th)

 

SAN FRANCISCO AT CINCINNATI

Giants.......... 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  0  5  0

Reds............ 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 1  -  1  8  2

Win:Purkey(5-7) Loss:Perry(5-8)

 

 

National League Standings

Team          W  L  Pct     GB  L10  Stk

Milwaukee     63  45  0.583     -  7-3  2W

Philadelphia  59  47  0.557   3.0 7-3  5W

Pittsburgh    59  48  0.551   3.5 7-3  2L

San Francisco 59  50  0.541   4.5 4-6  2L

Cincinnati    58  52  0.527   6.0 2-8  1W

St. Louis     55  53  0.509   8.0 6-4  1W

Los Angeles   54  52  0.505   8.5 2-8  5L

Chicago       50  57  0.467   12.5 8-2  3W

Houston       48  64  0.429   17.0 3-7  6L

New York      37  73  0.336   27.0 5-5  1L

 

INJURY REPORT

Tony Taylor, Philadelphia – returns August 9th.

Roberto Clemente, Pittsburgh – returns August 10th.

Willie McCovey, San Francisco – returns August 13th.

Don Cardwell, Pittsburgh – September.

 

TRANSACTIONS. The New York Mets have sent Frank Thomas to Philadelphia in return for Gary Kroll and Wayne Graham.

 

 

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01/26/17 03:43 PM

Hi Gary,
The Phillies look as if they are starting to wake up and make a push at the Braves. Still very surprised at St. Louis they better pick it up and do it quickly or their chances of a rematch with Detroit will be out of the question. This NL race is a good one although in the AL it looks as if the Tigers have their claws firmly dug in the top spot.
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Tigers Lead now 8 1/2 games!

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American League

Saturday, August 8th, 1964

 

Tiger Stadium, Detroit – Norm Cash belted 2 homeruns and Hank Aguirre shook off a bad start to toss a complete game as the soaring Tigers crushed the A’s 10-2. Cash added 3 RBI’s and 3 runs scored to his homeruns to lead the Tigers to another win.

 

Municipal Stadium, Cleveland – Once again, Mudcat Grant had trouble in the first innings as Cleveland scored in the first and 2 in the second for an early lead.  After that, Grant pitched well for Minnesota until Woodie Held homered late but it was too late. Jack Kralick went the distance while holding the Twins to just 2 runs to win a 4-2 game and move into a tie with the Twins for 4th place.

 

Comiskey Park, Chicago – Ray Herbert had another bad outing as first Dick Stuart and then Frank Malzone homered to put Boston up 6-0 after just 2 innings.  Chicago never recovered from that as Bill Monbouquette held them in check to pitch a full 9 and get an 8-3 victory. Tony Conigliaro chipped in with 3 hits to join Malzone in the hits leader category.

 

Yankee Stadium, New York – Al Downing still struggled but worked his way through wildness problems to toss a complete game and get his first win in the last 5 starts. The Yankees trashed Robin Roberts for 5 first-inning runs and Downing just held on after that for a 6-4 win. The big blow in the first was Tom Tresh’s 3-run shot following RBI hits by Mickey Mantle and Joe Pepitone.

 

Chavez Ravine, Los Angeles – Dean Chance just did not have it today and after loading the bases with no outs in the 3rd, he served up a grand slam to John Kennedy.  He then gave up his 8th hit and was replaced. Chance only went 2 innings while giving up 8 hits and 5 runs to raise his ERA all the way to 1.38. The Angels never recovered as Dave Stenhouse pitched well for Washington to pick up the 5-2 win.

 

BALTIMORE AT NEW YORK (A)

Orioles......... 0 0 1  0 2 0  0 0 1  -  4  7  0

Yankees......... 5 0 0  0 0 1  0 0    -  6  8  0

Win:Downing(9-10) Loss:Roberts(6-13)

Homeruns- J.Adair(6th), T.Tresh(13th)

 

BOSTON AT CHICAGO (A)

Red Sox......... 3 3 0  0 1 0  0 0 1  -  8 13  0

White Sox....... 0 0 1  0 0 0  0 1 1  -  3 11  0

Win:Monbouquette(8-12) Loss:Herbert(6-5)

Homeruns- F.Malzone(11th), D.Stuart(24th), F.Robinson(8th)

 

KANSAS CITY AT DETROIT

A's............. 2 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  2  6  2

Tigers.......... 0 0 0  3 2 0  4 1    - 10 12  0

Win:Aguirre(8-4) Loss:Meyer(3-4)

Homeruns- N.Cash-2(24th)

 

MINNESOTA AT CLEVELAND

Twins........... 1 0 1  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  2  7  2

Indians......... 2 1 0  1 0 0  0 0    -  4 10  0

Win:Kralick(9-8) Loss:Grant(5-17)

Homeruns- W.Held(14th)

 

WASHINGTON AT LOS ANGELES (A)

Senators........ 0 0 5  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  5 10  0

Angels.......... 0 0 0  2 0 0  0 0 0  -  2  3  1

Win:Stenhouse(3-6) Loss:Chance(13-8)

Homeruns- J.Kennedy(10th), J.Fregosi(15th)

 

American League Standings

Team           W   L  Pct.    GB  L10  Stk

Detroit       70  43  0.619    -  7-3  3W

Baltimore     60  50  0.545   8.5 6-4  1L

Chicago       59  50  0.541   9.0 6-4  1L

Minnesota     59  52  0.532  10.0 5-5  3L

Cleveland     59  52  0.532  10.0 4-6  3W

New York      56  50  0.528  10.5 4-6  1W

Los Angeles   58  56  0.509  12.5 5-5  1L

Kansas City   48  62  0.436  20.5 3-7  2L

Boston        45  66  0.405  24.0 4-6  1W

Washington    41  74  0.357  30.0 5-5  1W

 

INJURY REPORT

 

Carl Yastrzemski, Boston – returns August 10th.

Don Zimmer, Washington – returns August 10th.

Sam Bowens, Baltimore – returns August 13th. (Earl Robinson called up)

Tom McGraw, Chicago – returns August 14th.

Bert Campaneris, Kansas City – returns August 15th.

 

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01/28/17 11:19 PM

Frank Thomas deal pays off early as Phillies close to within 2 games.

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National League

Saturday, August 8th, 1964

 

Forbes Field, Pittsburgh – Billy Williams homered for an early Cubs lead and for a while it looked like the Cubs might take another one from Pittsburgh. Bob Buhl was pitching well but Pittsburgh finally tied the game at 4-4 in the 7th.  With Buhl still pitching, pitcher Al McBean lashed a single with one out. Dick Schofield drew a walk and Lindy McDaniel replaced Buhl. But McDaniel lost Bill Mazeroski on balls to load the bases.  With the infield drawn in, Manny Mota ripped a single past third baseman Ron Santo and the Pirates had won 5-4.

 

Busch Stadium, St. Louis – Bob Gibson had one of his worst games ever as the Colt 45’s ripped him for 9 runs in 4 2/3 innings.  That was plenty for Bob Bruce as Houston rolled over St. Louis 11-2. The Colts had 16 hits including 3 each by Eddie Kasko, John Bateman, and Joe Gaines with Gaines adding a homerun and Bateman driving in 3.

 

Crosley Field, Cincinnati – In a battle of Irishmen, Jim O’Toole got the worst of it as Billy O’Dell outpitched him for a 7-2 Giants victory over Cincinnati. Orlando Cepeda homered and drove in 3, Willie Mays had 3 hits and Harvey Kuenn added 4 singles. O’Dell pitched 7 strong innings and left the game up to Bob Shaw to finish up.

 

Connie Mack Stadium, Philadelphia – Frank Thomas paid early dividends to his new team as he homered and drove in a pair in a 3-run 6th inning that put the Phillies up 3-0 over the Mets.  That was enough for Dennis Bennett with help from Ed Roebuck as the Phillies went on to their 6th straight win and closed to within 2 games of first.

 

County Stadium, Milwaukee – Hank Aaron homered and the Braves built up an early 4-2 lead for Bob Sadowski against Bob Miller and the Dodgers. But after the 4th, Milwaukee could not score against Miller and the Dodgers chipped away at the lead getting to 4-3 by the eighth. Then in the 9th with Bob Tiefenauer on the mound, Los Angeles was down to its last out when Tommy Davis doubled. John Roseboro followed with a single as Davis scored ahead of the throw. Roseboro took second on the throw and Wes Parker followed with a single, scoring Roseboro ahead of the throw and the Dodgers had the lead.  Ron Perranoski came on and finally pitched well as the Dodgers knocked off the Braves 5-4. Jim Brewer got the win with one inning of relief.

 

CHICAGO AT PITTSBURGH

Cubs............ 2 0 0  1 1 0  0 0 0  -  4  6  0

Pirates......... 1 1 0  0 0 0  2 0 1  -  5 10  0

Win:McBean(9-4) Loss:Buhl(9-9)

Homeruns- B.Williams(21st)

 

HOUSTON AT ST. LOUIS

Colt 45's....... 0 2 1  0 6 0  0 0 2  - 11 16  1

Cardinals....... 0 0 0  0 0 2  0 0 0  -  2  6  1

Win:Bruce(11-6) Loss:Gibson(11-12)

Homeruns- J.Gaines(5th)

 

LOS ANGELES AT MILWAUKEE

Dodgers......... 0 1 0  0 1 0  0 1 2  -  5 13  1

Braves.......... 2 1 0  1 0 0  0 0 0  -  4  8  1

Win:Brewer(4-4) Loss:Tiefenauer(3-7) Save:Perranoski(14th)

Homeruns- H.Aaron(24th)

 

NEW YORK AT PHILADELPHIA

Mets............ 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 2  -  2  6  2

Phillies........ 0 0 0  0 0 3  1 1    -  5  9  0

Win:Bennett(9-9) Loss:Cisco(5-9)

Homeruns- J.Gonder(3rd), F.Thomas(2nd)

 

SAN FRANCISCO AT CINCINNATI

Giants.......... 1 0 4  0 0 0  0 2 0  -  7 14  0

Reds............ 0 0 1  1 0 0  0 0 0  -  2  9  0

Win:O'Dell(5-2) Loss:O'Toole(8-10)

Homeruns- O.Cepeda(28th)

 

National League Standings

Team           W   L  Pct     GB  L10  Stk

Milwaukee     63  46  0.578    -  6-4  1L

Philadelphia  60  47  0.561   2.0 8-2  6W

Pittsburgh    60  48  0.556   2.5 8-2  1W

San Francisco 60  50  0.545   3.5 4-6  1W

Cincinnati    58  53  0.523   6.0 2-8  1L

Los Angeles   55  53  0.509   7.5 2-8  1W

St. Louis     55  54  0.505   8.0 5-5  1L

Chicago       50  58  0.463  12.5 7-3  1L

Houston       49  64  0.434  16.0 3-7  1W

New York      37  74  0.333  27.0 5-5  2L

 

INJURY REPORT

Roberto Clemente, Pittsburgh – returns August 10th.

Eddie Mathews, Milwaukee – returns August 11th.

Al Spangler, Houston – returns August 12th.

Willie McCovey, San Francisco – returns August 13th.

Jerry Lynch, Pittsburgh – returns August 13th.

Don Cardwell, Pittsburgh – September.

 

TRANSACTIONS. The New York Mets have sent veteran pitcher Frank Lary to Milwaukee.  To make room, Milwaukee has sent pitcher Dave Eilers back to the minors. To replace Lary, the Mets have called up pitcher Dennis Ribant.

 

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It doesn't look like either the Yankees or Cardinals will follow history in this replay. I can see the Cards being a little iffy, but I thought the Yanks had enough talent to make it. Oh well, go Tigers!

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Hi Gary
Wow the Red Birds got their wings clipped by Houston 11-2 you have got to be kidding me. And Gibson got hammered for 9 runs in 4 2/3 innings how much worse could it get for the Cardinals? Seeing them play like this just blows me away. It looks like they have packed it in and are flying south for the winter. However the Phillies look ready to climb up in the standings, the Braves have got to be feeling the heat. And lets not over look the Pirates & the Giants who are also in position to climb up if one of these teams trip. Great race in the NL.
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thekline wrote:
It doesn't look like either the Yankees or Cardinals will follow history in this replay. I can see the Cards being a little iffy, but I thought the Yanks had enough talent to make it. Oh well, go Tigers!
Klineman - Yeah, I just don't get how the Cardinals won the pennant in real life.  They are just not that good. The Yankees are snake bit.  If I did this over I would not be surprised to see them win it - and they still could but without Mantle for a while, I do not see them making up enough ground.  The opposite can be said for your Tigers. They seem to get every break. They have a good cushion now if they can just hold it though September....

  

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Are the Yankees done for?

POLO GROUNDS GAZETTE

American League

Sunday, August 9th, 1964

 

Tiger Stadium, Detroit – Detroit scored 7 runs in the first three innings off of John O’Donoghue led by a Don Demeter homerun and rolled to an 8-4 win over the A’s. Ed Rakow went the distance, only having one bad inning when Nelson Mathews belted a 3-run homerun but otherwise pitching well. But the second game showed the Tigers to be mortal as Denny McLain was not sharp enough to stop Bill Bryan and Ed Charles from driving in 4 runs between them despite only getting 4 hits for the team. Moe Drabowsky likewise held Detroit to 4 hits but they only scored twice on a Gates Brown homerun and the A’s got a split with a 4-2 win.

 

Municipal Stadium, Cleveland – Bob Chance ripped a 3 run homerun in the first inning off of Jim Kaat and the Indians never looked back; rolling to a 12-1 win.  Pedro Ramos again pitched well for Cleveland to pick up the win. Chico Salmon scored 3 times and Chance had 4 RBI’s in the win. But Minnesota bounced right back as they teed off on Dick Donovan with homeruns from Bob Allison and a pair from Jimmie Hall.  Hall ended the game with 5 RBI’s while Jim Roland went the distance as the Twins turned the tables for a 10-2 win and a split.

 

Comiskey Park, Chicago – Chicago scored in each of the first 5 innings to build up a commanding 9-2 lead over Boston as the White Sox pounded rookie Ed Connolly.  They added 3 more runs and Joe Horlen went the distance for an easy 12-3 win. Mike Hershberger led Chicago with 3 hits including 2 triples while driving in 4 runs and scoring 3 times. But the second game was a pitching duel between spot starter Arnold Early and Juan Pizarro. Boston got on top first on an Al Smith sacrifice fly in the 2nd and that looked like it might hold until the bottom of the 8th when Hershberger drove in a run to tie the game. With Hoyt Wilhelm now pitching, Tony Horton singled with one out. Eddie Bressoud doubled and pinch hitter Lee Thomas hit a sacrifice fly for a 2-1 Boston lead. After Early got one out, a runner got on board and the call went out to The Monster.  Radatz came on to get two quick outs and the Red Sox had a 2-1 win and a split.

 

Yankee Stadium, New York – Disaster struck an already struggling Yankee team.  Mickey Mantle, who leads the league in almost everything, was hurt while batting in the 3rd inning and will miss the next week and a half! Without him, New York could not score against Steve Barber. Whitey Ford had started for the Yankees but he too was hurt and left after 3 innings.  Steve Hamilton replaced him and did a marvelous job such that it was still a scoreless game going into the 9th.  But little Luis Aparicio caught a hanging curve and pulled it right down the line for a 9th inning homerun.  Barber made that stand and the Orioles had a 1-0 win. But there were two games. Playing without Mantle, the Yanks built up a careful 3-0 lead on single runs over the first 5 innings. Then in the 6th, Rollie Sheldon gave up a 2-run homerun to Brooks Robinson and then another 2-run shot to Willie Kirkland to fall behind 4-3. Joe Pepitone tied the game with a homerun but the combustible Yankee bullpen gave away another run, Harvey Haddix made that stand and the Orioles had swept the Yankees with a 5-4 win. The sweep allowed Baltimore to pick up a game on the Tigers.

 

Chavez Ravine, Los Angeles – Buster Narum pitched well for Washington but was matched by Aubrey Gatewood as the Angels kept the game close. With the score tied 2-2 after regulation, the bullpens took over as the game went into the 11th.  Here, Chuck Hinton hit a homerun off of Dan Osinski for a 3-2 Washington lead. Ron Kline made that stand up with a 1-2-3 inning and got a win with 2 scoreless innings pitched.

 

BALTIMORE AT NEW YORK (A)

Orioles......... 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 1  -  1  6  0

Yankees......... 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  0  5  0

Win:Barber(6-6) Loss:Hamilton(6-4)

Homeruns- L.Aparicio(14th)

 

BALTIMORE AT NEW YORK (A)

Orioles......... 0 0 0  0 0 4  1 0 0  -  5 12  0

Yankees......... 0 1 1  0 1 1  0 0 0  -  4 14  0

Win:McNally(9-3) Loss:Mikkelsen(5-4) Save:Haddix(5th)

Homeruns- B.Robinson(21st), W.Kirkland(7th), J.Pepitone(20th)

 

BOSTON AT CHICAGO (A)

Red Sox......... 0 2 0  0 0 1  0 0 0  -  3  8  3

White Sox....... 3 2 2  1 1 0  3 0    - 12 14  1

Win:Horlen(11-8) Loss:Connolly(2-7)

Homeruns- D.Stuart(25th)

 

BOSTON AT CHICAGO (A)

Red Sox......... 0 1 0  0 0 0  0 0 1  -  2  5  1

White Sox....... 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 1 0  -  1  5  0

Win:Earley(3-2) Loss:Wilhelm(2-6) Save:Radatz(14th)

 

KANSAS CITY AT DETROIT

A's............. 0 0 0  0 4 0  0 0 0  -  4  6  1

Tigers.......... 2 1 4  0 1 0  0 0    -  8 10  1

Win:Rakow(6-3) Loss:O'Donoghue(9-12)

Homeruns- N.Mathews(10th), D.Demeter(12th)

 

KANSAS CITY AT DETROIT

A's............. 0 2 0  0 0 0  2 0 0  -  4  4  0

Tigers.......... 0 0 2  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  2  4  0

Win:Drabowsky(6-6) Loss:McLain(4-6)

Homeruns- E.Charles(13th), G.Brown(11th)

 

MINNESOTA AT CLEVELAND

Twins........... 1 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  1  5  0

Indians......... 4 0 0  2 0 2  4 0    - 12 15  1

Win:Ramos(6-5) Loss:Kaat(12-12)

Homeruns- B.Chance(8th)

 

MINNESOTA AT CLEVELAND

Twins........... 3 0 0  0 0 2  2 0 3  - 10 14  0

Indians......... 0 1 0  1 0 0  0 0 0  -  2  5  1

Win:Roland(6-5) Loss:Donovan(8-7) Save:Perry(4th)

Homeruns- J.Hall-2(15th), B.Allison(20th), V.Davalillo(8th)

 

WASHINGTON AT LOS ANGELES (A)

Senators........ 0 0 0  2 0 0  0 0 0  0 1 -  3  8  1

Angels.......... 1 0 1  0 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 -  2 10  0

Win:Kline(6-5) Loss:Osinski(4-4)

Homeruns- C.Hinton(21st)

 

     

American League Standings

Team           W   L  Pct.    GB  L10  Stk

Detroit       71  44  0.617    -  7-3  1L

Baltimore     62  50  0.554   7.5 7-3  2W

Chicago       60  51  0.541   9.0 5-5  1L

Minnesota     60  53  0.531  10.0 4-6  1W

Cleveland     60  53  0.531  10.0 5-5  1L

New York      56  52  0.519  11.5 3-7  2L

Los Angeles   58  57  0.504  13.0 5-5  2L

Kansas City   49  63  0.438  20.5 3-7  1W

Boston        46  67  0.407  24.0 5-5  1W

Washington    42  74  0.362  29.5 6-4  2W

 

INJURY REPORT

Don Zimmer, Washington – returns August 10th.

Sam Bowens, Baltimore – returns August 13th. (Earl Robinson called up)

Tom McGraw, Chicago – returns August 14th.

Bert Campaneris, Kansas City – returns August 15th.

Mickey Mantle, New York – returns August 20th. (Elvio Jimenez called up)

 

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Braves gain back that game from Philly

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National League

Sunday, August 9th, 1964

 

Forbes Field, Pittsburgh – Ernie Broglio was called on to pitch on short rest and tossed perhaps his best game of the season.  He held Pittsburgh to just 1 run over the first 7 innings and ended up allowing 3 as he tired. But by then his Cub teammates had scored 7 runs against the porous Buc defense.  By the 5th inning, the Pirates had bungled 4 balls as the Cubs scored 5 unearned runs against poor Don Schwall. The Cubs finally got 2 legitimate runs in the 7th to go on to a 7-3 victory. Billy Williams led the way with 3 hits including a double and homerun while driving in 4 base runners.

 

Busch Stadium, St. Louis – It may be time to think of next year for the Cardinals as even their ace Curt Simmons could not defeat the lowly Colts. Ken Johnson kept the Cardinals off balance while holding them to 1 run over the first 8 innings. When the Cardinals rallied for 2 runs in the 9th and had the tying run at third and the go ahead run at 2nd, Claude Raymond came on to get the final out for a 4-3 Houston victory.

 

Crosley Field, Cincinnati – Rookie Bill McCool was given his first ever start and responded with a fantastic 10-strikeout effort while walking no one and whitewashing the dreaded San Francisco offense. Bob Hendley started for the Giants but Frank Robinson doubled with 2 men on in the 3rd for a 2-0 lead.  Leo Cardenas later added insurance with a 2-run single against Bob Shaw and the Reds went on to a 4-0 win.

 

Connie Mack Stadium, Philadelphia – Despite Frank Thomas homering again, Tracy Stallard only allowed that one run and the Mets finally stopped the Philly win streak at 8. Ray Culp also did a fine job but made a mistake to Ed Kranepool for a 2-run blast and the 2-1 win.

 

County Stadium, Milwaukee – Another team that may be thinking about next year is Los Angeles.  Even Don Drysdale could not squeeze a win out of the pathetic Dodger offense. Once again they were shut out, this time by struggling lefty Denny Lemaster as the Braves consolidated their hold on first with a 2-0 win. An error led to one run and a walk, sacrifice bunt, and a Felipe Alou single led to the other run as the Dodgers ponder their disappointing season.

 

CHICAGO AT PITTSBURGH

Cubs............ 0 0 4  0 1 0  2 0 0  -  7  8  2

Pirates......... 0 0 0  0 1 0  0 1 1  -  3  4  4

Win:Broglio(7-12) Loss:Schwall(4-2)

Homeruns- B.Williams(22nd), G.Freese(5th)

 

HOUSTON AT ST. LOUIS

Colt 45's....... 0 0 3  0 0 1  0 0 0  -  4  8  1

Cardinals....... 0 0 0  1 0 0  0 0 2  -  3 10  0

Win:Johnson(10-12) Loss:Simmons(14-4) Save:Raymond(7th)

Homeruns- B.Aspromonte(8th)

 

LOS ANGELES AT MILWAUKEE

Dodgers......... 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  0  5  1

Braves.......... 0 0 1  1 0 0  0 0    -  2  6  0

Win:Lemaster(9-7) Loss:Drysdale(16-8)

 

NEW YORK AT PHILADELPHIA

Mets............ 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 2 0  -  2  7  0

Phillies........ 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 1  -  1  6  0

Win:Stallard(8-13) Loss:Culp(4-5)

Homeruns- E.Kranepool(4th), F.Thomas(3rd)

 

SAN FRANCISCO AT CINCINNATI

Giants.......... 0 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  0  8  0

Reds............ 0 0 2  0 0 0  0 2    -  4  7  0

Win:McCool(8-2) Loss:Hendley(6-9)

 

 

National League Standings

Team           W   L   Pct    GB  L10  Stk

Milwaukee     64  46  0.582    -  6-4  1W

Philadelphia  60  48  0.556   3.0 7-3  1L

Pittsburgh    60  49  0.550   3.5 7-3  1L

San Francisco 60  51  0.541   4.5 4-6  1L

Cincinnati    59  53  0.527   6.0 3-7  1W

Los Angeles   55  54  0.505   8.5 2-8  1L

St. Louis     55  55  0.500   9.0 5-5  2L

Chicago       51  58  0.468  12.5 7-3  1W

Houston       50  64  0.439  16.0 3-7  2W

New York      38  74  0.339  27.0 5-5  1W

 

INJURY REPORT

Eddie Mathews, Milwaukee – returns August 11th.

Al Spangler, Houston – returns August 12th.

Willie McCovey, San Francisco – returns August 13th.

Jerry Lynch, Pittsburgh – returns August 13th.

Jim Pagliaroni, Pittsburgh – returns August 20th. (Tom Butters called up).

Don Cardwell, Pittsburgh – September.

 

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Wow....Luis with 14 dingers. There's one of those statistical "yikes" that comes with the turf, huh?

Boy, the Yankees are awful You can SMELL 1965's decay. It's everywhere.

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01/30/17 07:45 PM

A sinking ship with another hole now, taking on water without Mantle. I am surprised they are so far back, but like Mike says, the decay is evident.

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Yeah - I'm toying with the idea of firing Yogi early but I think that would have started a revolt in real life.  Plus the negotiations for the sale of the Yankees is ongoing in August so firing Yogi would not make much sense.

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Hi Gary,
Wow the Mets are trying to ruin the Phillies plans along with the Houston Colt 45"s. Nothing will kill a closes pennant race than having a losing team step up and beating a contender. Those are the kind of reflection games that you look back upon when the season is over and you came up short in the standings. They will make you sit there and scratch your head and ask how in the world did we lose to them of all teams.
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J.Q. GO 2017 RED SOX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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gwloar wrote:
Yeah - I'm toying with the idea of firing Yogi early but I think that would have started a revolt in real life.  Plus the negotiations for the sale of the Yankees is ongoing in August so firing Yogi would not make much sense.

I love the call-up of Elvio Jimenez for Mantle. His "cup of coffee" was one 13-inning game : he hit third and was 2 for 6 with five putouts in left field and no errors. 

And at The Stadium no less, against stellar pitching: 1 for 3 vs. Luis Tiant, 1 for 1 vs. Tommy John, 0 for 1 vs. Sonny Siebert, and 0 for 1 vs. Sam McDowell.

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The Road Ahead

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American League

Monday, August 10th, 1964

 

No games were scheduled today to account for travel.  Time to look into our crystal ball as we had toward the final stretch.

 

The Detroit Tigers seem to be in control.  They are all healthy, the hitting is consistent, and the pitching good enough to win. They have a 6 game lead on the loss column over Baltimore and have yet to have any losing streaks. All Chuck Dressen needs to do is keep going along steadily, working young Denny McLain and Joe Sparma into the rotation, and avoiding his weak bullpen.

 

Baltimore has been playing well of late and seems to be the only likely challenger to Detroit. The pitching of Milt Pappas and Wally Bunker have been solid but both Robin Roberts and Steve Barber have been up and down.  They need to straighten out for Baltimore to catch Detroit. The hitting is a bit thin after Boog Powell and Brooks Robinson.  Both have to stay healthy or the season is probably over.

 

Chicago still suffers from their anemic offense, needing great pitching to win. More often than not they get that pitching but it is a hard row to hoe. The key player may be recent addition Moose Skowron. If the veteran slugger can jump start this offense, then they may have a chance to challenge.  But right now that seems a bit far-fetched.

 

Minnesota relies on homeruns to win. But they need more pitching to move up and unless Mudcat Grant can turn around his awful season, this team is not going to make it.  At least the additions of Johnny Klippstein and Al Worthington have given the Twins a good bullpen if they can just get there with a lead.

 

Cleveland is the opposite of Minnesota. They struggle to score but they have young guns (McDowell, Tiant, Siebert) to go with Jack Kralick and Pedro Ramos and so can beat anyone. But the hitting is just not consistent.  The future looks bright in Cleveland however when you add in Bob Chance and Tommy John.

 

And then there are the Yankees.  With Mantle now out until mid-next week, the Yankees are going to have to pull together now and play like they did last year or start thinking about next season. They are 8 games back in the loss column which is not insurmountable but they have to play much better. And the big problem is pitching. Only Ford and Bouton are pitching well.  They need Downing to come around and in a fit of desperation, have called up tall, young Mel Stottlemyre.  New York has not had a reliable 4th starter all season and the New York brass hopes young Stottlemyre is the answer.  We do not have much longer to wait since he is slated to start this Wednesday.

 

The rest of the teams are in wait-until-next-year mode. The Angels have good pitching in Dean Chance and Fred Newman but their offense is the worst in the league and it is time to look at some young blood for next year.  Kansas City has been able to use its offense to overcome the poor pitching but much of that relies on veterans Rocky Colavito and Jim Gentile. The future in KC is young Bert Campaneris and Dick Green who look like they will provide the A’s with a stable keystone combo. But after that the pickings are slim unless Ken Harrelson can show that he can be more consistent.  Boston’s season has skidded along with Carl Yastrzemski’s batting average. If Yaz could hit again, he could join rookies Tony Conigliaro and Dalton Jones as a solid offensive core. They now need Tony Horton to show what he can do. But the pitching is still a minefield. Washington has shown improvement of late but the only standouts have been Claude Osteen and Chuck Hinton. There is not much to crow about after that and so another year of rebuilding looks like it is coming.

     

American League Standings

Team           W   L  Pct.    GB  L10  Stk

Detroit       71  44  0.617    -  7-3  1L

Baltimore     62  50  0.554   7.5 7-3  2W

Chicago       60  51  0.541   9.0 5-5  1L

Minnesota     60  53  0.531  10.0 4-6  1W

Cleveland     60  53  0.531  10.0 5-5  1L

New York      56  52  0.519  11.5 3-7  2L

Los Angeles   58  57  0.504  13.0 5-5  2L

Kansas City   49  63  0.438  20.5 3-7  1W

Boston        46  67  0.407  24.0 5-5  1W

Washington    42  74  0.362  29.5 6-4  2W

 

INJURY REPORT

Sam Bowens, Baltimore – returns August 13th. (Earl Robinson called up)

Tom McGraw, Chicago – returns August 14th.

Bert Campaneris, Kansas City – returns August 15th.

Mickey Mantle, New York – returns August 20th. (Elvio Jimenez called up)

 

TRANSACTIONS. The Yankees have called up pitcher Mel Stottlemyre.

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Slow day in the NL but idle Milwaukee gains on all contenders.

POLO GROUNDS GAZETTE

National League

Monday, August 10th, 1964

 

Busch Stadium, St. Louis – Ken Boyer ripped 2 homeruns, drove in 4 and scored 3 times to lead St. Louis to a 6-1 win over the Giants.  Juan Marichal was no match for Boyer and company while veteran Roger Craig pitched one of his best games of the year.  Craig scattered 8 hits while only allowing that one run in the win.

 

Crosley Field, Cincinnati – Larry Miller tossed his best game of the season for Los Angeles as he held the Reds to just 4 hits and a couple of runs. Of course, a couple of runs could be fatal for Dodger pitching but luckily for Miller his teammates got to Johnny Tsitouris early for 3 first-inning runs before being shut down the rest of the way; helped by 2 Cincinnati errors.

 

LOS ANGELES AT CINCINNATI

Dodgers......... 3 0 0  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  3  5  0

Reds............ 1 0 0  0 0 1  0 0 0  -  2  4  2

Win:Miller(3-5) Loss:Tsitouris(7-8)

Homeruns- T.Harper(3rd)

 

SAN FRANCISCO AT ST. LOUIS

Giants.......... 0 1 0  0 0 0  0 0 0  -  1  7  0

Cardinals....... 3 0 2  0 0 0  0 1    -  6  8  3

Win:Craig(6-5) Loss:Marichal(15-10)

Homeruns- K.Boyer-2(28th)

 

National League Standings

Team           W   L  Pct     GB  L10  Stk

Milwaukee     64  46  0.582    -  6-4  1W

Philadelphia  60  48  0.556   3.0 7-3  1L

Pittsburgh    60  49  0.550   3.5 7-3  1L

San Francisco 60  52  0.536   5.0 3-7  2L

Cincinnati    59  54  0.522   6.5 3-7  1L

Los Angeles   56  54  0.509   8.0 3-7  1W

St. Louis     56  55  0.505   8.5 6-4  1W

Chicago       51  58  0.468  12.5 7-3  1W

Houston       50  64  0.439  16.0 3-7  2W

New York      38  74  0.339  27.0 5-5  1W

 

INJURY REPORT

Al Spangler, Houston – returns August 12th.

Willie McCovey, San Francisco – returns August 13th.

Jerry Lynch, Pittsburgh – returns August 13th.

Jim Pagliaroni, Pittsburgh – returns August 20th. (Tom Butters called up).

Don Cardwell, Pittsburgh – September.

 

TRANSACTIONS.

 

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